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Hazel Cullen's avatar

I really, really hope that you’re right Alon!

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Roslyn Ross's avatar

So, Alon Mizrahi, now appears in my substack activity messages as 1 user replying to my post. But I cannot see the reply which hardly seems democratic, fair or reasonable.

Perhaps the reason for this hiding can be made clear? If you do not want a response from me there are other ways to achieve it as in making a request, openly.

This is blocking while retaining subscriber numbers. Please.

One presumes your reply is intended for everyone but me and if that is the case, why reply to my post in the first place?

Five replies from you to five of my posts. I must have garnered your interest. And I can only say, if your replies represent personal attacks then that reflects on you, not me.

And if your replies simply represent opposing views, I can only wonder why it frightens you to let me see them.

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Aalia Hussain's avatar

A very interesting perspective on colonialism. It makes a lot of sense.

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Abtin Khamoshi's avatar

Wonderful. In going to listen to this many times so I can stop rambling and explain this to others as well as you have here. Thank you

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Alon Mizrahi's avatar

Thank you very much

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Roslyn Ross's avatar

Elizabeth, you said: I really didn’t want to bother with you anymore but I’m going to just say it. Anyone who wants to read your series of long winded comments can go ahead if they want to fact check me. You’ve repeated yourself so much I’ve lost track. Almost every single word of yours absolutely REEKS of white supremacy. It’s so repugnant that I have to block you. There’s no level of violence or atrocity, no genocide, no regime change, no imperialist interventions or expansionist wars that will ever touch a mind like yours.

Since you have blocked me, which is childish in the extreme and unfair, since you slipped in your attack and then denied a response, forgive me for answering here and I believe given your unsubstantiated accusations I deserve a response.

I am more than grateful if anyone reads my comments and yes, I agree, I am not inclined to brevity but that is because I try to explain my position as comprehensively as possible.

Can you just tell me what white supremacy means to you? First, define what is white. Oh, you cannot because you will not see this. But perhaps someone else will provide an explanation.

I am guessing and I might be wrong that you conflate white skin and anglo-europeans and we are talking about colonisations and you see that as supremacist.

I would humbly suggest that you study the societies of anglo-europeans who became colonists between the 16th and 19th centuries so you have better perspective on what was happening in their world, particularly with the poor, so you can have a credible comparison for their actions as colonists. That is called balance.

Your last para bears no resemblance to anything I have ever said and I can only presume you are projecting and have not processed properly what I said.

I reject all forms of supremacism. I am a realist and I deal in facts. I think it is unbalanced and biased to simply condemn all anglo-european colonisation and glorify it when done by others. And nothing is ever all bad. Have you ever seen the Monty Python skit, What Did the Romans Do for Us? The Britons hated the Romans but the Romans were not all bad and contributed enormously to the development of the English. That is a factor in most colonisations, the Israelis being an egregious exception where their goal is total destruction of Palestinian culture, art, history and reality.

Did you know that the British in India saved the Taj Mahal and other Moorish architectural wonders which the Hindus preferred to see decay and disappear?

Did you know the British in India translated the ancient Vedic scripts into Hindi so ordinary Indians could read them instead of just the upper class Brahmins?

Did you know the British in India and Africa worked to help educate the poor, the cast out and females?

So, I will hold to my position that while colonisation was a necessary part of human evolution it is no longer needed, and it was never all bad. And where it is genocidal as it is in Palestine then it must be condemned and stopped.

You have made many accusations and proved none of them. Instead you throw a hissyfit and block me. Grownups do not do such things. I have never been abusive or insulting and my greatest crime is presenting facts and making a credible argument you do not like.

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KO0KO's avatar

The analysis of an empty American identity as fuel for compulsive conquest is compelling, though not reducible to US as per Teresa's comment below. The problem may lie in identity but not for a lack of something that exists elsewhere, but for the lack of an ideological something that never had any substance anywhere. Identitarian emptiness may align with the lack that drives desire within psychoanalysis discourse. Yet the same reason of emptiness may suggest a different location for hope.

I understand that you situate hope in the idea that empire cannot expand any more? I doubt this. Empire can expand precisely because neither itself nor its acquisitions are real but empty. They are desiring projections forced onto reality. What is not real but imagined or projected as a film has no limitations. It can always expand further in any direction whatsoever. Seen from this perspective, hope can be found in two other places:

1. What is real or full (beyond identity) remains "really" untouched by what is false, empty, anyway, namely identity.

1.1. And so, what is real keeps puncturing and blurring or disturbing the expanding projection, probing its inherent falsity.

2. On this basis, the fiction of empire can be made intelligible, exposed through nuanced analysis like yours. Exposure can reach a dimension and weight such that it suffices to deactivate the projection of empire, that is, empire itself. It demands a humongous conscious effort.

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Lisa ghanayem's avatar

Thank you again!

My hope is you are correct.

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Carol's avatar

Thank you Alon. 🙏

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Ali's avatar

Immense gratitude for your wonderful unpacking and contextualising the current global crisis. I am riveted by your writing 🙏

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Fifi La Mer. Australia's avatar

I prefer to read you than listen to you because I'm always in a hurry and a slow delivery takes too much time. Spit it out Alon. Fast. WHO is THEY? taking on the entire of humanity?? The US or Israel?

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Hana Horack-Elyafi's avatar

increase playback speed :)

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An Observer (Teresa L)'s avatar

One more thing: US expansionism in the last century was / is rooted in that idea of "manifest destiny" and "white man's burden", I suppose. It has almost a thousand bases all over the world today - for what? Why can't they leave all these other countries alone? Is it just driven by a need to control natural resources in other places? Security? When it keeps destroying cities and killing millions and creating enemies all over? Subverting local politics and installing their puppets? (witness the goings-on in the Philippines w.r.t. China) I do not understand this desire to be "master of the universe".

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Roslyn Ross's avatar

There is no doubt that the American myth of being 'chosen by God' and being a 'light unto the world,' all of which means better than everyone else, or exceptionalism, goes some way toward explaining the bond so many feel with Israelis/Jews who hold to the same sort of mythology.

It is an interesting thought that two States, founded on a belief in God-given exceptionalism, should be so violent and hegemonic. To be fair, all powerful nations have desired Empire, had a belief in exceptionalism and worked for domination of their region, or, in the case of the US, the world.

Perhaps the poison in it all is when a State, nation, country believes that its supremacy and greatness is decreed by God, i.e. they have a right to dominate and control.

And one thing I have found is that people find it much harder to give up dreams and myths than they do realities and both the United States and Israel were founded in dream and myth, more imagined than real, but a bedrock within the society. In the earliest times Americans believed that they were exceptional and better than everyone else but truly wished to do good. The exceptionalism remained and the desire to do good, including to their own people, disappeared.

The US has the poorest quality of life on average in the developed world but, I would be prepared to bet, most Americans still believe they are better off than anyone else. Such is the power of myth. Although the internet means that Americans if they choose, can learn about the rest of the world in ways their education and society does not allow.

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An Observer (Teresa L)'s avatar

I agree wholeheartedly with your characterization of US culture and soul (or lack of it). The myth of USA is about starting afresh, anew, and creating your own destiny - as well as your own history, you might say. In my view, the utilitarianism of Protestantism has driven the policies and mindset of the relatively young country (compared to Europe or the ancient cultures of China and Iran, etc.). It had this idea of "manifest destiny" - that God supposedly made America the guide of the world. Where that came from, I don't know. Protestantism?

But there is a certain rootlessness here that breeds an atmosphere of temporariness, transitoriness, that can explain a hollowness to the national soul. The urban areas certainly reflect that sense of always "going forward" and forever discarding the old for the new. The more conservative and rural areas such as the Appalachians are more attached to their lands and history, no matter how short (historically speaking) that latter might be (no more than a century or two). And those populations are derided and mocked by the urbanites for being provincial and backward - just listen to the jokes on TV. (Interestingly, you will not find many Jews in those "provincial" areas.)

I do feel that pressure of the utter materialism, with everything reduced to its dollar value and not intrinsic value, now paramount in the culture and every aspect of life anymore. A lot of people are also struggling to get by, and so it becomes the most important concern in life, since there is no lifeline or safety net other than what one has put away or invested - and family cannot be relied on since a lot of families have been wrecked, too. Is this sensibility not one instilled in America by the Jewish takeover of the society, though?

Although I don't know that only the Anglo-Saxons are the worst colonizers in history. As Roslyn Ross says elsewhere here, all people colonized - fought, conquered, killed - other peoples to one degree or another.

But cannot agree with your defense of Communism. Russian Communism - Bolshevism - was evil, and was invented and led by mostly Jews, this is undisputed anymore.

(What do you think of the Spanish Empire? I have my own, "un-PC" thoughts about that, and do not equate at all its reasons for expansion with those of the British, Dutch, etc..)

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Roslyn Ross's avatar

Well said. I think another overlooked factor is the massive and unnatural increase in immigration which has seen the population balloon and bloat too quickly. I suspect this was done to boost population numbers higher as a counter to fear of China. I could be wrong.

But too many migrants, too quickly and the society will fray and tangle and fall apart.

The other factor at work is illegals where the economy rides on their backs as a new form of slavery, but where their wages are so low and their rights so nonexistent that all Americans suffer, except the rich of course.

Americans have the lowest wages, worst worker conditions and least worker rights in the developed world and I suspect that is because the illegals make it almost impossible for Unions to function or exist. And the US worked actively in the early 20th century to destroy unions in ways which did not happen in other developed countries.

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Kay Neal's avatar

I'm a White person, and I always remember wishing so badly when I was a kid that I was something that had some richness to it. I thought it might be cool to be Jewish (although it would have been really weird not to go to church on Sunday!) or Hispanic, because they could speak another language in addition to English. I didn't find out till I was an adult that my people were Scots-Irish. I just thought we were so boring.

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Roslyn Ross's avatar

I am curious when people talk about White. What does the term mean to you? Why do you call yourself a white person?

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John Visher's avatar

America has zero interest in attacking Iran. Zero. The Jews in Washington DC fuck their gay boyfriends and dream of death and endless satanic blood sacrifice. Jews sacrifice hundreds of children a day in Gaza right now. How fucking obvious can it get! For fuck sake. Stop sucking Jew dick and wake the fuck up!!

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John Visher's avatar

Jews control modern slave trade and drug trade.

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John Visher's avatar

Name the Jew. Columbus was a Jew. Columbus enslaved 400 natives and shipped them back to Europe. 100 died on the Atlantic passage. Jews controlled and dominated slave trade. Jews infiltrated England, Netherlands, Germany, Portugal. Europeans are not Jews. Jews come from Eastern Europe. My English ancestors were driven out by Jews in 1620. Anglo saxons are not the source of the problem. Jews are psychotic. Jews were the main slave holders in America. This guy is brainwashed. Read Malcolm X.

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Roslyn Ross's avatar

Columbus was a devout Christian and his exploring was to spread the Catholic faith. And since the Spanish threw out Jews in 1492 I doubt they would make one a Captain of an expensive journey of exploration.

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John Visher's avatar

You play checkers and Jews play Satan.

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Roslyn Ross's avatar

I don’t play checkers and to universally accuse all Jews to play Satan, by which I presume you mean evil, is illogical and unfair. It is wrong to blame all followers of a religion for the actions of their fanatics.

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John Visher's avatar

Columbus was a Jew. Jews Owned most of the slaves in America and South America. And they controlled the Atlantic slave trade. I was beginning to wonder if you even played checkers. Columbus was extremely greedy and brutal. Devout Catholics are in my experience neither.

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Roslyn Ross's avatar

Columbus was a devout Catholic.

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Roslyn Ross's avatar

You cannot condemn all followers of a religion for the actions and beliefs of their fanatics. There is no generic Jew as you suggest.

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John Visher's avatar

95% of Jews in the world are Ashkenazi. They call themselves Jews but they are Turk-mongols from Khazaria. Their religion is satanism. Rothschild, an Ashkenazi, created the state of Israel out of thin air with his Jew conspirators in Britain in 1917. The state of Israel is satanic and anyone who can’t see it by now is a fucking moron. The Jews know they worship Satan. Who the fuck are you to say they don’t. Come now.

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Roslyn Ross's avatar

Judaism is a religion and within the religion are people of all races under those definitions and hundreds of nationalities. Judaism comprises like all religions, various forms including Hasidic and Reform which are vastly different.

I do not believe in Satan so your comments have no relevance for me. I do understand the concept of Satan as described in all religions and many spiritual belief systems. So, I am not sure if you are talking about the Christian fundamentalist American version of Satan or the Zoroastrian version of Satan or the Devil, or the Wiccan version of Satan/Devil.

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John Visher's avatar

You don’t believe in Satan. But Jews worship Satan and make sacrifices to Satan.

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Roslyn Ross's avatar

Judaism is not Satan worship. Why say such ridiculous things?

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